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Minutes - Tuesday 8 February 2005

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MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF LYNDHURST PARISH COUNCIL HELD AT APPLETREE COURT ON TUESDAY 8 FEBRUARY 2005 AT 7.15 PM

 

Present:

Mr G W Bisson – Chairman

Mr M Abbott, Mr F Alexander, Mrs E A Butcher,
Mr J Drew, Mr M Gammon, Mr D Newport, Mr J Wilding Mrs P Wyeth

Clerk to the Council:

Mrs M H Weston

In Attendance:

5 members of the public

Mr B Craig (Advertiser and Times)

Daily Echo Reporter

Mr M Kendal (County Councillor)

Mr N Hunt (Principal Engineer, NFDC)

381 Presentation regarding Temporary Closure of the Fenwick Hospital by NF PCT

 

Yvonne Le Brun, Deputy Chief Executive: Service Delivery and Tim Moran, Head of Patient and Public Involvement attended the meeting.

It was stated that in the current financial year the NF PCT budget was £163,000,000 but at the present time the overspend was £9,800,000. A quick appraisal of the situation had taken place and it had been decided to close the Fenwick Hospital for a minimum of three months.

This hospital had been chosen from the five community hospitals because there were concerns about the quality of care for patients, how medical care was provided – high bank usage, it was one of the smallest units, difficulties in staffing, low occupancy and the fact that its services were not so tied in with other services as the other four hospitals.

 

It was emphasised that no decision has yet been reached regarding the long term future of the hospital although emphasis was placed on the fact that a new 104-bed hospital is being built in the area.

Mr Bisson stated that the physiotherapy department and day care centre had previously closed.

Mrs Le Brun replied that the day care centre was run in conjunction with Social Services and because of the changes they had made it was no longer feasible to run the Centre. However, discussion was taking place with Social Services to reprofile the service to the local community.

Mr Bisson felt that the hospital had been deliberately “run down” so that it could be closed.

Mr Moran stated that the Community Services Strategy Board were looking at the best way of using all the hospitals and it might take longer than three months to make a decision. Consultations would take place with the public.

Mr Alexander asked who would take the blame for the mismanagement and no satisfactory answer was forthcoming.

 

Mrs Wyeth said what annoyed local people was that they had put a great deal of money into the Fenwick Hospital over the years and they felt they should have been consulted.

 

Mr Gammon asked whether cost cutting or patient care was the most important factor.

The answer was that the primary driver was patient safety. It was not thought good management to keep several hospitals open if they were not fully used and the same number of beds are still available to the population.

Mr Drew felt there were a lot of elderly people who needed the Fenwick Hospital.

It was pointed out that the outpatient and rehabilitation units would be retained.

Mr Paul Mapes, President of the League of Friends, stated that he felt the closure would become permanent. He pointed out that the Friends had raised a great deal of money towards the day centre and this had been wasted. There should have been more consultation.

Mr Moran stated that it was very important that anyone interested in getting involved in the public group for development of future services should get in touch with him through the Parish Council Chairman and it was agreed that his contact details be placed on the website.

 

Another option is to contact him (Patient Advice and Liaison Manager) at 8 Sterne Road, Tatchbury Mount, Calmore, Southampton SO40 2RZ

 

or by telephone on 023 8087 4291/fax 023 8087 4275

email tim.moran@nfpct.nhs.uk

382 Presentation regarding Air Quality in Lyndhurst by NFDC Environmental Protection

The presentation was made by Carole Gallagher (NFDC Environmental Protection Manager) and Rachel Higgins (a member of that department).

 

It was stated that the Environment Act 1995 placed a statutory duty on local authorities to assess air quality in their area in terms of the air quality objectives.

 

The pollutant nitrogen dioxide applied with regard to the level of traffic in Lyndhurst High Street which had been identified as “a narrow congested street with residential properties close to the kerb/busy junction/busy street where people may spend one hour or more close to traffic”.

 

The health implications applied to people who suffer with respiratory problems. Levels were being assessed by using diffusion tubes and these had been extended to 16 sites from January 2005 which measured an average concentration over a 4 week period, from which an annual mean is determined.

 

A real time analyser, located at 14 High Street, could determine both the annual and hourly means.

 

However, as it was thought unlikely that an air quality objective would be met NFDC had declared an Air Quality Management Area with respect to the 2005 annual mean objective for nitrogen dioxide in Lyndhurst.

 

There was now a need to decide on the boundary of the AQMA, which would be submitted to DEFRA. The two suggestions made by NFDC were from the school to Gosport Lane, not including the Church and from the school to the lower end of the High Street, not including the Church.

 

The second suggestion would also take into account traffic now using the lower end of the High Street due to the Colbury right turn.

 

RESOLVED: To recommend that NFDC pursue the second suggestion, ie from the school to the lower end of the High Street, not including the Church.

 

Mr Hunt explained that work has started on the transport plan. A number of proposals have been suggested to give drivers better information when traffic congestion is experienced on the M27/A31 and in Lyndhurst.

 

Variable message signing on the motorway could be used to alert drivers to use the Colbury right turn when there is traffic congestion in Lyndhurst .

383 Public Participation

None

384 County Councillor ’s Report

Mr Kendal reported on the DEFRA view of National Park relationship to other bodies. With regard to planning, although the National Park Authority will be the sole planning authority the service could be contracted out and at officer level this service could be provided by the local planners.

 

With regard to the Verderers, protection of the forest is placed above recreation so there should be no conflict. DEFRA were also advising the use of other bodies who have local knowledge.

 

Mrs Wyeth stated that a letter and questionnaire had been circulated to all parents and interested parties regarding children at Lyndhurst Infant School. It might appear to have come from the school but this was not the case as it was from a private individual and the school did not agree with some of the suggestions made with regard to road safety aspects. Mrs Wyeth explained that she had replied to the letter some time ago.

 

Mr Kendal felt that a yellow “no entry” box hatched in the road before the crossing might be another option.

385 Disclosures of Interest

None

386 Apologies for Absence

Apologies for absence were received from Mr J Charlesworth,
Mr E Gailor and Mr M Rollé.

387 Minutes

RESOLVED: That the minutes of the meeting of the Council held on 11 January 2005, having been circulated, be signed by the Chairman as a correct record.

388 Matters Arising from the Minutes

(a) Damage to Goose Green

 

It was noted that although the Highway Department had not yet repaired the damage to the green the daffodils were coming through.

389 Reports from Representatives of Outside Bodies

PC Ennew presented his crime summary for the period 20 January to 8 February 2005.

390 Correspondence

  • NFDC – New arrangements for liquor and public entertainment licensing coming into effect on 7 February. Briefing sessions may be arranged on one of these dates (depending on demand) 15, 17 and 23 February at 10.00 am at Appletree Court.
  • NFDC – Application for renewal of public entertainment licence at the Crown Hotel.
  • NFDC – New Forest District Local Plan Monitoring Report.
  • Paris Smith & Randall – Notification of application for transfer of licence at The Oak Inn, Bank.
  • Lamport Bassitt – Notification of application for transfer of licence at The Waterloo Arms.
  • Batt Broadbent – Notification of application for transfer of licence at Coburns, High Street.
  • Due South (Training Consortium) – Information about workshops for voluntary and community organisations. Topics include Basic book-keeping, registering charities, lone working and running voluntary organisations.
  • Forest Friendly Farming – Newsletter.
  • HCC – Community Transport Newsletter.
  • HCC – Letter concerning essential drainage works in Princes Crescent commencing 24 January for approximately 3-5 weeks.
  • Environment Agency – Flooding: Be Prepared – A Guide for Older People.
  • New Forest Community Legal Services – Information Newsletter.
  • English Nature – Letter explaining replacement of boundary wall to the east of their property with a fence and closure of the gate in the wall at the front of the building.
  • New Forest District Council - Email from Stuart Beaton, Assistant Engineer (Drainage) explaining that NFDC have a land drainage section that will advise and in some circumstances assist people suffering problems of flooding from watercourses. He would be pleased to meet members of the Parish Council to walk or look at a chosen watercourse and answer any questions that arise.
  • SEEDA – Information and invitation regarding information meetings to be held on Tuesday, 15 February at 5.00 pm ( Littleton) and Thursday 17 February at 2.00 pm (Wickham) about Hampshire Food Festival (26 June – 11 July).
  • Hampshire Constabulary Roads Policing Unit – Invitation to attend meeting on Thursday, 10 February at 7.00 pm at Lymington Town Hall to discuss Roads Policing issues in the New Forest. Agenda available on the day.
  • TVBC/NFDC – Launch of garden waste collection scheme on 7 March at 11.00 am at Bransgore Village Hall. For a small charge residents will be provided with a heavy duty garden waste bag which will be emptied fortnightly. All garden waste collected will be made into “Progrow” compost.
  • NFDC – Notification of application for a road closure order for A35 High Street between the school and junction with the Beaulieu Road on Friday 25 March from 11.15 to 11.30 am for a procession of the cross.
  • Health and Safety Executive – Copy letter from the office of the Deputy Director General (Operations) to Chief Executive, NFDC regarding the interpretation of the law on health and safety aspects in relation to paddling pools.
  • NFDC – Application for renewal of public entertainment licence at the Community Centre.
  • Lyndhurst Residents Association – Email regarding date of AGM – Tuesday, 22 March at 7.30 pm at Lyndhurst Community Centre.
  • Hampshire Playing Fields Association – Newsletter.
  • Eric Robinson Solicitors – Application for notice of Transfer – Whitemoor House Hotel.
  • Mr Maurice Porter – letter regarding access to Brooklands, Gosport Lane.

RESOLVED: That the Clerk ask Mr Millar, Hampshire Highways for details of the proposals.

391 Open Verges including Gales Green

RESOLVED: To hold this matter in abeyance until the Annual Parish Meeting

392 Annual Parish Meeting

A copy of the proposed agenda and notice were presented for confirmation. The Chairman asked if anyone had any ideas for a speaker and stated that a tentative enquiry had been made to see if TLC-Online would be prepared to give a presentation on the new website. They had indicated that they would be able to attend.

 

RESOLVED: That TLC-Online be invited to give a presentation at the Annual Parish Meeting.

393 Accounts

Confirmation was given for the following accounts now due for payment:

Mrs M Weston Clerk’s Salary and Expenses
£711.30
Lyndhurst and District Community Association Room Hire
£18.00
Fearless Ramps Repairs to half pipe (skateboard ramp)
£2,232.50

 

394 Grant Applications

(a) Lyndhurst Lighting and Decorations Committee

RESOLVED: That a grant of £500 be made.

 

(b) Emery Down and Bank Village Hall Trust

RESOLVED: To ask for a copy of the 2004 Accounts before a decision is made.

395 Memorials and Purchases

Confirmation was given for the following memorials granted since the date of the last meeting:

No 2387/62
Dorothy Bessie Allen
£21.00
Additional Inscription
No 2414/62
Horace Arthur Charles Falcon
£21.00
Additional Inscription

Confirmation was given for the following purchases granted since the date of the last meeting:

No 2530/74
Mr Raymond Elliott
£74.00
Burial Plot
No 2531/82
John Neville Sykes
£74.00
Burial Plot

 

396 Items for Discussion at the Next Meeting

Agenda items brought forward from Agenda for February meeting.

Any other items brought to the Clerk’s attention by Tuesday 4 March 2005.

397 Rumour Corner

None.

The Chairman thanked those present for attending and closed the meeting.

 

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